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#1: Need to be fixed by tomorrow pc restarting on its own after Author: TillBGoode, Location: Ashford

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 1:18 pm
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Hi, I have upgraded a pc for a friend. Only thing from old PC is GPU PSU and the case itself.(W7 home premium)

Everything is working great but when go to start then shut down it turns off completely then 3 seconds later starts up PDT_Armataz_01_05

It's not the memory or GPU or DVD drive. His power button is pushed in but still it is not that causing it. I have gone through BIOS and made sure everything start up blah blah is disabled and have done the same in device manager in regard to network adapters. I have changed options under power management to not turn on after switching off. I have also tweaked registry settings to do the same. I have updated all the drivers for MB and everything else plugged in. Only thing I have not updated it the BIOS itself due to it being a bit risky wanted to look else where first as it isn't my pc or would have done it straight away PDT_Armataz_01_12

Ohh there are no updates for the BIOS so only opetion would be to just re-flash it

Have cleared the CMOS.

To be honest there isn't much I have not done.

Cheers

#2: Re: Need to be fixed by tomorrow pc restarting on its own af Author: Milos,

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 1:28 pm
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this is beyond our power PDT_Armataz_01_07

#3: Re: Need to be fixed by tomorrow pc restarting on its own af Author: TillBGoode, Location: Ashford

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 4:38 pm
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Reinstalling windows as it worked for one person......nope didn't work. Will take whole thing apart and see what happens.

#4: Re: Need to be fixed by tomorrow pc restarting on its own af Author: Milos,

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 5:18 pm
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Need a repair tool? PDT_Armataz_01_11

#5: Re: Need to be fixed by tomorrow pc restarting on its own af Author: _lecro_, Location: England

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 5:33 pm
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Long shot but have you check power management

#1 wake event..LAN ect ect .. id turn all those off

#2 cables to MOBO ?

#3 did this happen before you loaded any drivers aswell ?

#4 If you click on the Start Button: Right Click the Shut Down button: Select Properties: In the Power button action: Shutdown

#5 Disable auto restart in bios incase its an actual error thats causing it

1. Right clicking Computer, then selecting properties.
2. Going to the advance tab and then click Settings under Startup and Recovery (third option)
3. Uncheck Automatically Restart

I also had this problem a while back and ended up getting a new mobo JFYI PDT_Armataz_01_15

#6: Re: Need to be fixed by tomorrow pc restarting on its own af Author: TillBGoode, Location: Ashford

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 5:38 pm
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I have done all that. Was before any drivers were installed and after.

Checked the event logs and it is clean in regards to crashes.

#7: Re: Need to be fixed by tomorrow pc restarting on its own af Author: _lecro_, Location: England

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 5:45 pm
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what about just one stick of ram and a cd drive ?

everything else out ... gpu ect

#8: Re: Need to be fixed by tomorrow pc restarting on its own af Author: TillBGoode, Location: Ashford

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 6:03 pm
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Got 3 sticks of RAM and had one at a time with no dvd drives at all. Can't remove GPU as no onboard. Just dismantled the whole thing and trying again now.

EDIT: nope, BIOS re-flashing is last option really.

#9: Re: Need to be fixed by tomorrow pc restarting on its own af Author: TillBGoode, Location: Ashford

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 7:20 pm
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Does anyone think there is a chance of damage to hardware if it is just left? Could he just switch it off on the back of his PC when it shuts down before it reboots? There is 3 seconds of it being off.

Event logs show no crashes, maybe just a non fatal bug.

It's running nice and smooth while loaded up. Temps are really low, CPU 7 degrees on each core.

#10: Re: Need to be fixed by tomorrow pc restarting on its own af Author: _lecro_, Location: England

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 8:26 pm
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Wouldnt advise just switching it off, potentially some long term damage due to the voltage spikes.
TBH if you have time i would just swap out every component untill it stops doing it,dont you have a spare pc you could cannibalise ?

#11: Re: Need to be fixed by tomorrow pc restarting on its own af Author: TillBGoode, Location: Ashford

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 8:34 pm
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I don't mean just turn it off I mean select shut down in windows and when it closes down fully in the 3 seconds before it starts up again switch it off at the back.

I saw a thread where the GPU caused the problem. Will swap my sons over and see what happens. After I have done that there is nothing else to swap. Well Other than the PSU which is a bit of hassle to do but that worked fine in the previous build.

If I turn it off via the on button by holding it, it does not restart.

I know it's not the buttons on the case being stuck, not the RAM not the DVD drive, BIOS settings all set to disabled in regard to turning on with mouse keyboard and whatever. In windows selected not to tun on after turning off also.

Will do GPU quickly. If that fails will go for BIOS re-flash.

#12: Re: Need to be fixed by tomorrow pc restarting on its own af Author: _lecro_, Location: England

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 8:47 pm
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Just to clarify,

You have a new mobo / cpu / ram ?

#13: Re: Need to be fixed by tomorrow pc restarting on its own af Author: TillBGoode, Location: Ashford

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 8:55 pm
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New mobo, cpu, ram, dvd drive and hard drive with new installation of W7 home premium.

Old Case, PSU and GPU.

#14: Re: Need to be fixed by tomorrow pc restarting on its own af Author: _lecro_, Location: England

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 9:06 pm
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well id put a spare psu and gpu in and see what happens
if its still the same id say mobo is fubar

#15: Re: Need to be fixed by tomorrow pc restarting on its own af Author: TillBGoode, Location: Ashford

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 9:10 pm
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Put my sons GPU in and it works fine. My sons does not require power direct from PSU.

Just trying my mates GPU with the power lead coming from a different slot.

EDIT: With power coming from different slot still doesn't work. He will just have to upgrade his GPU I guess. Some odd conflict PDT_Armataz_01_05

May try with my GPU and see if that works as that requires power from PSU.

EDIT 2: It is a fucking nightmare searching google for GPU causing pc to start up after shutting pc down. Just comes up with GPU shutting pc down after over heating. OTHER WAY AROUND YOU CUNTS.

#16: Re: Need to be fixed by tomorrow pc restarting on its own af Author: B0ris,

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 4:24 pm
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I think it's unlikely that it is PSU related...random restart problems caused by a PSU would be what is knows as a "brown-out" reset.
This is caused by Vcc dipping below operational parameters. If is this problem it would happen during heavy loads. (Probably)

In my experience BIOS issues can cause random reboots. I've had this myself a on occasion.
Flashing the BIOS is not that hard or dangerous if you know what you're doing.
Today most motherboards have a dual or even four spare ROM:s storing a working version of your mainbords BIOS.
If the primary is not viable it automaticly selects the secondary.
If you cut the power during a flash...that's bad...or if you load the wrong version into your flashing tool.

The BIOS provides the means for the OS to talk to the hardware...if there's some hardware that is newer than the BIOS itself...that might cause some funky errors, especially if your BIOS is V1.0

TL;DR Update your BIOS to the latest version! ;)

#17: Re: Need to be fixed by tomorrow pc restarting on its own af Author: TillBGoode, Location: Ashford

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 8:03 pm
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As said in the previous posts, it's after going through start and shut down, 3 seconds of being off then loads back up. It's not my computer or would update the bios in a split second but also as I said there is only one version PDT_Armataz_01_11

So would just be re-flashing same bios but could work if other one was corrupt.

I don't really think flashing a bios is dangerous there is nothing to it, the dangerous part is while it is flashing if it gets interrupted as you said PDT_Armataz_01_12

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My old pc I flashed the bios chip and it would not start up after that, it was a dual bios pc but the second never saved the day and took over. Luck for me the chip just had a bad connection and just reset it's position and it was fine.

I tried my GPU in the pc and it works fine with that in it, when his GPU is plugged in it doesn't work correctly.

#18: Re: Need to be fixed by tomorrow pc restarting on its own af Author: TillBGoode, Location: Ashford

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 11:27 pm
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Right, it is fixed.

It's my extension lead causing it. My PC started doing the same when I went to go to bed. It has gone intermittent now hopefully it will just work till the end of the week when I will have money for a new one. PDT_Armataz_01_07

#19: Re: Need to be fixed by tomorrow pc restarting on its own af Author: B0ris,

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 7:34 pm
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Extension lead? How about that....of all the things... ;)
Anyhow, nice fix!

#20: Re: Need to be fixed by tomorrow pc restarting on its own af Author: Milos,

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 7:37 pm
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this is why xbox is the superior platform PDT_Armataz_01_11

#21: Re: Need to be fixed by tomorrow pc restarting on its own af Author: _lecro_, Location: England

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:03 pm
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I know your in a very liberated part of the world
but we will have no mention of gay boxes here PDT_Armataz_01_28

#22: Re: Need to be fixed by tomorrow pc restarting on its own af Author: Milos,

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:07 pm
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One box to rule them, to find them, and lead them into the darkness...

#23: Re: Need to be fixed by tomorrow pc restarting on its own af Author: TillBGoode, Location: Ashford

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:08 pm
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Milos just no lol.

#24: Re: Need to be fixed by tomorrow pc restarting on its own af Author: Milos,

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:09 pm
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Its power cannot be undone

#25: Re: Need to be fixed by tomorrow pc restarting on its own af Author: _lecro_, Location: England

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:19 pm
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My trusty tac light will rule supreme against your gay box invasion .

#26: Re: Need to be fixed by tomorrow pc restarting on its own af Author: TillBGoode, Location: Ashford

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:26 pm
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ohh man don't bring tac lights into it PDT_Armataz_01_09

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