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#1: Random minimising Author: TillBGoode, Location: Ashford

Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 8:26 pm
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Since Wednesday my games have just started to randomly minimise. BF4 was really bad for it just start flashing back and forth, I thought windows was doing updates in the background and causing it but it is happening in all games :/

I checked task manager and nothing is running that wasn't there before :/

#2: Re: Random minimising Author: _lecro_, Location: England

Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 10:04 pm
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What processes do you have running ?

#3: Re: Random minimising Author: TillBGoode, Location: Ashford

Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 11:30 pm
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53 background processes and 26 windows processes.

A lot basically. I have disabled a few things in start up that I do not remember being there. I googled them and apparently not dodgy but then again the display name isn't everything. Will see what happens after a restart.

#4: Re: Random minimising Author: _lecro_, Location: England

Posted: Sat May 10, 2014 12:07 am
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Stop the goat pron downloader !

#5: Re: Random minimising Author: TillBGoode, Location: Ashford

Posted: Sat May 10, 2014 5:43 pm
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Seems to have been fixed...atm. Java update seems to have helped.

#6: Re: Random minimising Author: Jacksoni, Location: Tampere, Finland

Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 10:36 am
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Seemed to persist last night so I'm gonna throw some ideas.

Are you still using two monitors? Maybe the mouse cursor is leaving the main screen onto the other and causing the game on the main to minimize/crash or some update messed with your desktop settings.

Using many overlays (origin, xfire, steam, uplay, teamspeak, fraps...) might cause it too, maybe try without any of them running? (if ya can find a game that doesn't require one PDT_Armataz_01_14

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I read on overclock.net that people with wireless keyboards and mice have had these kinds of problems.

And ofc try updating/using different gpu drivers, deleting system32.exe, sacrificing a goat while humming pagan chants and all that.

#7: Re: Random minimising Author: TillBGoode, Location: Ashford

Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 1:13 pm
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It fixed itself after I done a java update had no crashes for helms deep.... Well I searched for update and it said there was no update lol. Yeah 2 monitors I have had the issue withgames that require no mouse.

I closed everything except steam and was happening. I have done no updates as everything has been working for ages. Only diff is windows updates. I do have a wireless mouse.

I don't know will look at updates in general I guess.

#8: Re: Random minimising Author: TillBGoode, Location: Ashford

Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 7:43 pm
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Well it has started up again PDT_Armataz_01_10

#9: Re: Random minimising Author: SUPERKING,

Posted: Mon May 26, 2014 1:41 pm
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Hm.. I have that issue sporadically.. I dont particularly notice it.. I think it's mostly when I have Folding @ Home running or something (i.e. YouTube) is loading in Chrome, when the page loads the game minimises to the browser.. could this be your case?

#10: Re: Random minimising Author: TillBGoode, Location: Ashford

Posted: Mon May 26, 2014 1:50 pm
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I don't think so, I have next to nothing running like that while I am playing games. It is getting tedious as it just crops up before playing L4D2 or practice PDT_Armataz_01_07

#11: Re: Random minimising Author: SUPERKING,

Posted: Mon May 26, 2014 2:00 pm
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I guess this hasn't been happening since day1.. which means something's changed to cause that to happen.. maybe a new game install or steam patch etc..

Maybe something to do with Steam Beta testing or try turning off the steam community feature for the game? Or re-installing?

#12: Re: Random minimising Author: TillBGoode, Location: Ashford

Posted: Mon May 26, 2014 2:25 pm
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Nah not day one. Very recent. I was thinking maybe a windows update as one happened a few days before hand. It's happened with steam closed even.

Was thinking of maybe doing a format soon PDT_Armataz_01_07

#13: Re: Random minimising Author: SUPERKING,

Posted: Mon May 26, 2014 4:25 pm
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I like to avoid windows updates like the plague.. is this a windows 8 thing? Maybe graphics drivers?

#14: Re: Random minimising Author: TillBGoode, Location: Ashford

Posted: Mon May 26, 2014 4:41 pm
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YEah windows 8. It does them silently in background. I was kind of thinking it was doing weekly updates and causing it but it does it far too frequently. I have not updated my graphics drivers for a while, mainly because it works PDT_Armataz_01_12

Can give it ago I guess.

#15: Re: Random minimising Author: NI-UNDEAD,

Posted: Mon May 26, 2014 5:49 pm
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windows 8 is horrible... that is all

#16: Re: Random minimising Author: TillBGoode, Location: Ashford

Posted: Mon May 26, 2014 5:52 pm
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I came from vista......it is amazing PDT_Armataz_01_14

I really like it. Helps using Vista before where I had non-stop issues but I have no issues what so ever.....except this one but have seen this problem on W7 also so may not be OS related.

#17: Re: Random minimising Author: vikingvirus, Location: Kingsbridge,Devon

Posted: Mon May 26, 2014 6:42 pm
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Agreed. It's cos it's an odd version of Windows. The next version will be better. I'll wait for that I think. PDT_Armataz_01_25

#18: Re: Random minimising Author: _lecro_, Location: England

Posted: Mon May 26, 2014 7:26 pm
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Im actually starting to warm to 8.1 on my phone atleast
i may even upgrade when i find a decent version thats up datable

#19: Re: Random minimising Author: TillBGoode, Location: Ashford

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:47 pm
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Still happening and I am trying to play red faction again but when it happens in that I can not go back to playing I have to force close and load save which is utter shit.

It had settled for a bit but it has got to the point of being fucking aggravating as hell again.

I was planning on doing a format soon tbh :/

#20: Re: Random minimising Author: _lecro_, Location: England

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:11 pm
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TillBGoode wrote (View Post):

Still happening and I am trying to play red faction again but when it happens in that I can not go back to playing I have to force close and load save which is utter shit.

It had settled for a bit but it has got to the point of being fucking aggravating as hell again.

I was planning on doing a format soon tbh :/

You mean your playing RF single player PDT_Armataz_01_13

#21: Re: Random minimising Author: TillBGoode, Location: Ashford

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:47 pm
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Yeah haha, need to download maps to play MP but till this is sorted no chance.

#22: Re: Random minimising Author: _lecro_, Location: England

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:58 pm
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you get the default maps to play multiplayer without downloading anything !

but if you use PureFaction http://purefaction.org/

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you can download maps straight from the server page just like in COD4

#23: Re: Random minimising Author: TillBGoode, Location: Ashford

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 7:12 pm
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Yeah all the servers running do not use default that is why PDT_Armataz_01_12

Ahh will have to look again as it just wouldn't let me do anything when I tried to join them. Will look now.

#24: Re: Random minimising Author: TillBGoode, Location: Ashford

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 7:20 pm
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Nope, will get them the other ways. Still some servers running with default just empty.

#25: Re: Random minimising Author: _lecro_, Location: England

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 7:37 pm
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TillBGoode wrote (View Post):

Nope, will get them the other ways. Still some servers running with default just empty.

Thats what im saying with pure faction you just click join and the map is automatically downloaded and installed.

#26: Re: Random minimising Author: TillBGoode, Location: Ashford

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 7:41 pm
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Ohh right sorry misunderstood :D

#27: Re: Random minimising Author: TillBGoode, Location: Ashford

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 10:00 am
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I am convinced it is Java, I have disable it doing auto updates and it seems to have cleared it but today it has reactivated itself. Says it was last updated on 19th but when I try to update it says there is one ready but then nothing happens.

#28: Re: Random minimising Author: _lecro_, Location: England

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 12:03 pm
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uninstall then download fresh copy

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#29: Re: Random minimising Author: TillBGoode, Location: Ashford

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:37 am
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Finally updated it, even though when I tried before and it said was up to date it clearly seems it wasn't.

Hopefully this was the cause.

#30: Re: Random minimising Author: TillBGoode, Location: Ashford

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 11:43 am
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Has not worked full stop. I looked at my event viewer and it doesn't show anything happening at the times it does.

#31: Re: Random minimising Author: TillBGoode, Location: Ashford

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 12:12 pm
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Done and sfc scan and that came back clear PDT_Armataz_01_19

#32: Re: Random minimising Author: vikingvirus, Location: Kingsbridge,Devon

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 12:28 pm
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It sounds like something else trying to push it's way to full screen. For example. If I forget to close Skype and someone calls it minimises BF. Or a system notification.

#33: Re: Random minimising Author: TillBGoode, Location: Ashford

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 12:45 pm
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vikingvirus wrote (View Post):

It sounds like something else trying to push it's way to full screen. For example. If I forget to close Skype and someone calls it minimises BF. Or a system notification.

Yes that is exactly like what is happening.

I can be typing a message here stop for a second then the page like flashes really quick like something opened ten when I go to carry on typing I have to re-click in the box.

Tat is what made me think it was Java as it was always there trying to update.

#34: Re: Random minimising Author: vikingvirus, Location: Kingsbridge,Devon

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 12:49 pm
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Have you tried going through the process list in task manager and ending every process that is unnecessary including processes in processes from all users? then trying again.

#35: Re: Random minimising Author: vikingvirus, Location: Kingsbridge,Devon

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 12:57 pm
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Also have you tried CCleaner?

#36: Re: Random minimising Author: _lecro_, Location: England

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 1:07 pm
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Have you tried running in windowed mode ?

#37: Re: Random minimising Author: TillBGoode, Location: Ashford

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 2:01 pm
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Done CCleaner and spybot S&D.

Windowed mode? You mean ingame instead of full screen? It happens any time it isn't game related.

Will look at the links now. I have looked at the processes before will look again.

#38: Re: Random minimising Author: vikingvirus, Location: Kingsbridge,Devon

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 2:17 pm
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Also I read somewhere it could be USB hardware related. So maybe unplug all USB device you can and see if that helps. Perhaps remove a USB device one at a time to see if it's a particular cable or summin.

#39: Re: Random minimising Author: TillBGoode, Location: Ashford

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 2:31 pm
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Saying that I kept thinking that before but never acted on it. I have 2 controllers attached one of which I never use but can't think why I don't as would be so much better with some games. Will disconnect them and see what happens.

They are in general off until a game starts up though but will see what happens. Problem is it does go away sometimes for no reason so makes it hard to reliably trace what really helps.

#40: Re: Random minimising Author: TillBGoode, Location: Ashford

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:05 pm
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Well I have formatted, will just wait and see now.

#41: Re: Random minimising Author: vikingvirus, Location: Kingsbridge,Devon

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:42 pm
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Well good luck buddy. Hope it works for you.

#42: Re: Random minimising Author: TillBGoode, Location: Ashford

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 11:05 pm
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All ok at the moment but I was kind of expecting that to be honest.

BF4 seems to be running a little sluggish now though. Will check what FPS I am getting. Before was always over 160FPS but feels blah now.

#43: Re: Random minimising Author: vikingvirus, Location: Kingsbridge,Devon

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 5:33 pm
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Hows it going Till? still all good? fix your FPS issue?

#44: Re: Random minimising Author: TillBGoode, Location: Ashford

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 12:05 am
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Been away today will have to see how next few days go PDT_Armataz_01_12

#45: Re: Random minimising Author: TillBGoode, Location: Ashford

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 7:17 pm
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Problem has gone for now which is good. My game is now supper sluggish though. I was playing yesterday and had 160FPS then it dropped to 50FPS but it felt more like 10FPS was unplayable PDT_Armataz_01_16

#46: Re: Random minimising Author: Milos,

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 8:40 pm
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TillBGoode wrote (View Post):

Problem has gone for now which is good. My game is now supper sluggish though. I was playing yesterday and had 160FPS then it dropped to 50FPS but it felt more like 10FPS was unplayable PDT_Armataz_01_16

Have you tried running 32x bf4 (viaorigin>bf4properties)?

#47: Re: Random minimising Author: TillBGoode, Location: Ashford

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 11:04 am
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Will have a look.

#48: Re: Random minimising Author: T0dddy, Location: Glasgow

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 7:08 pm
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by any chance do you have an Samsung 840 SSD, because i have had the same problem, and closing down Samsung magician software from the bottom right of the taskbar seems to have done the trick, also sometimes overlay software causes this, but yeah anyways close down Samsung magician software if you have that open i did and it hasnt minimized yet :)

P.S goes for any ssd software :)

#49: Re: Random minimising Author: TillBGoode, Location: Ashford

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 7:16 pm
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I do not have anything like that running but thanks for the reply PDT_Armataz_01_12

Should have posted since I formatted my PC the problem has been resolved PDT_Armataz_01_04

Would have been nice to have known the exact cause.

#50: Re: Random minimising Author: T0dddy, Location: Glasgow

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 7:46 pm
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That is weird, as for the low fps, you could make sure settings are the same as they where? once i did fresh install i got big big fps drops, ended up doing another fresh install lol, but i hard formatted my drive first.

You could go into your bf4 folder, then install folder, go into directx and run the setup.exe that will redownload latest directx also go into vc and repair both of them, if you really wanna to get it stable, you could go and get bf4 settings editor..

ALSO THIS

For this you first need to open notepad and create a user.cfg in your battlefield 4 main installation directory.
(In C: > Program Files (x86) > Origin Games > Battlefield 4).
Next you can put these commands in the text file. These tweaks will give you a fps boost and the first command lets you see your frames per second ingame.

PerfOverlay.DrawFps 1
RenderDevice.ForceRenderAheadLimit 0
RenderDevice.TripleBufferingEnable 0
RenderDevice.VsyncEnable 0
PostProcess.DynamicAOEnable 0
WorldRender.MotionBlurEnable 0
WorldRender.MotionBlurForceOn 0
WorldRender.MotionBlurFixedShutterTime 0
WorldRender.MotionBlurMax 0
WorldRender.MotionBlurQuality 0
WorldRender.MotionBlurMaxSampleCount 0
WorldRender.SpotLightShadowmapEnable 0
WorldRender.SpotLightShadowmapResolution 256
WorldRender.TransparencyShadowmapsEnable 0
WorldRender.LightTileCsPathEnable 0

If you want to disable some Dx11 features for more frames per second ad these commands to your user.cfg

RenderDevice.Dx11Enable 1
RenderDevice.Dx11Dot1Enable 0
RenderDevice.Dx11Dot1RuntimeEnable 0

Users can now configure and control themselves how many CPU cores should be used in the game with the new “Thread.MaxProcessorCount” settings in User.cfg.

“Render.DrawScreenInfo 1”now also shows information about which CPU and GPU is in the system, how many GPUs & CPU cores are used and which renderer (DirectX 11 or Mantle) is active.

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